2020 BMW F900R vs Kawasaki Z900

18 Agu 2020
182 330 Ditonton

There are a million ways to skin a cat, as they say, and the field that is the 900cc-ish middleweight naked bike segment is a perfect example. Just take these two cats. We recently put the KTM 890 Duke R and Triumph Street Triple R head-to-head, Burns gave us flack for not throwing the Kawasaki Z900 in the mix. I still don’t think it quite has enough to top its Austrian or British counterparts, but it’s peppy enough and should be thrown up against something - if for nothing else than to shut John up.

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  • That kawi makes 124 brake hp, btw amigo, pretty bad ass considering its bone stock hp, KAWI

    Justin BurdickJustin Burdick12 jam yang lalu
  • I bought the first Kawasaki Z900 2021. I didn’t like it. I think that Kawasaki is not an honest company. You don’t offer a application or product that it doesn’t work. I will be with the Z900 one year and I will sell it. Kawasaki never more. Don’t waste your time and money if you thinking buying new Kawasaki.

    Fabio Ferreira BiancoFabio Ferreira Bianco3 hari yang lalu
    • @mathias hammar I will make a claim, but the seller will not solve the problem. It will say; I am sorry, or I should send a request for Kawasaki

      Fabio Ferreira BiancoFabio Ferreira Bianco2 hari yang lalu
    • Could you elaborate ? 2021 model is not sold on market yet tho. But you got mechanical or warranty claim on yours 2020 model ?

      mathias hammarmathias hammar2 hari yang lalu
  • In Australia the MT09 is selling for around $13-14k. I can pick up a Z900 from a local dealership for $11.5k today. Cheap and amazing!

    moto bazukamoto bazuka7 hari yang lalu
  • I have 2020 bmw F900R fully loaded I’m very pleased with it.😊👌👍✊💪

    sho waysho way7 hari yang lalu
  • What about the headlights? Turn signal? LED or not, what about some roll on power races. What about the tire widths? What accessories are available? You guys need to do a thorough review.

    MJ RussellMJ Russell9 hari yang lalu
  • Yeah i’ll take the Kawi z900 myself for it’s power n zing :)

    Tony GarciaTony Garcia10 hari yang lalu
  • Yup Kawasaki any 😁day ! not many BMW cars go much more than a hundred k if your lucky 🙃 before something snaps ! 😭 or blows T ur bow lol

    Gary KellyGary Kelly11 hari yang lalu
  • LOVE THIS VIDEO! Love the disagreements and honesty. It doesn't always need to be combative, but agreeing to disagree is US. Let's do that diplomatically. Like you too did. Perfect. And I'm looking for a 900. I didn't know BMW made a budget bike? How is my hard earned $9000 a budget for a bike. I bought a new GS750 in the late '70's for roughly $1000. Car's haven't gone up as much.... thanks!

    goaliemojogoaliemojo12 hari yang lalu
  • I’m from Brazil and have a 2015’ F800R. I like it very much but I’d observed that 3-pistons (MT’s and Triumphs) along with 4-pistons (Z’s, GSX’s...) have massive presence on bike events. Many BMW’s fans put their money on GS (Big Trail) models and I doubt if BMW will bring F900R to Brazil as a regular imported bike.

    Roger that!Roger that!14 hari yang lalu
  • If BMW wanted to play in this space, they should have brought a slightly better machine. It's still doing nothing for me. Not that it is a bad bike at all - It just looks kinda cheap and budgety sans the dash. I think the Z900 is a better bike. All day every day. I'd take a Street Triple RS over this too. I don't like Parallel twins - especially this one. Having said that, I would take a Duke 890R over this too. And what is this shit about I-4 engines having no character? What a load of crap. I own a Big-V, a Triple and an I-4, and that 4-cylinder is by far the strongest of the bunch. It has this amazing growl, which turns into an intense howl when you whack the throttle. It's so smooth and unstressed you can cruise all day. Yet it generates relentless power and torque whenever you want it. And it's absolutely bullet proof. That screams character. I love all my engines, but I have a special place in my heart for this 1255cc beauty. But hey, the F900R looks to be a very decent machine. Just don't think for a moment you are going to pay 9 grand for one. I have looked and you can't touch one for under 15 grand around here thanks to BMW's predatory "option packages"! But hey, If you HAVE to have a BMW, and that is your budget, I'm sure it will be fine.

    Dennis MDennis M17 hari yang lalu
  • Z900

    BIGZARGBIGZARG19 hari yang lalu
  • +1 for Kawasaki ❤️

    N62 INFINITYN62 INFINITY20 hari yang lalu
  • If this comment section is a Election , the Kawi will be the President.

    CKPHHCKPHH20 hari yang lalu
  • Can I ask how you guys feel about the KTM 890 in comparison to these bikes?

    Intel KoreIntel Kore20 hari yang lalu
  • Maybe you guys should have waited 3 months to do this video. MT09 updates make both these bikes look dated. This coming from a person that replaced my MT09 with a 2019 Z900 and very much love the Z900, but it Kawasaki needs add a quick shift up and down to this bike. Should have been added in the 2020 update.

    Yahto TVYahto TV24 hari yang lalu
  • How does the kawi get better mileage with 1 cylinder more and 30 hp more? Did he mean range?

    Joe Danger FinesseJoe Danger Finesse27 hari yang lalu
  • Why don't american motorcycle get led blinkers ???

    - PAHWASAKI- PAHWASAKI27 hari yang lalu
  • Waay too much Kawa bias in this review. Knowing the F900XR and the Z900 (and the MT09), it's pretty clear the old dude is a big kawa fan, 'cause he can only argue for the Z900 by talking down the strengths of the other bike, while marginalizing the weaknesses of the Z900. When a 'reporter' is so clearly biased towards a particular brand/bike, the review comes across as non credible. The Z900 _is_ good, perhaps better than the BMW for many buyers, but certainly not a bike that beats the MT09 as clearly as claimed - the engine on the MT09 is nothing short of a gem, with _much_ more character than the Z900. But applying the old dude's 'logic', "he wouldn't notice", rendering the point irrelevant apparently. .

    Thomas MThomas MBulan Yang lalu
  • just bought a Z900 and its 125 bhp, 6ft 3 and its comfortable for me and the bike is amazing, although still breaking it in, only had it a week.

    Stuart SpinkStuart SpinkBulan Yang lalu
  • Where is the BMW 900 twin engine manufactured?...I read somewhere it’s made in China.

    Dennis GearsideDennis GearsideBulan Yang lalu
  • Can’t believe the BMW is made in China?!

    Brian OstBrian OstBulan Yang lalu
  • Show 😎

  • Hostnya masih ada keturunan batak indonesia

    Gusti SyaifulGusti SyaifulBulan Yang lalu
  • BMW comes with a chinese engine made by Loncin at a premium price. Nuff said.

    Leopold StotchLeopold StotchBulan Yang lalu
  • I prefer kawasaki, amazing bike ❤️

    Karl SteelKarl SteelBulan Yang lalu
  • idworlds.info/from/x6qVqr6Xfn9ji80/video

    Fabio ColucciFabio ColucciBulan Yang lalu
  • I ride my 2018 Z900RS as often as possible. It is the best bike I’ve ever rode.

    Tom SteckTom SteckBulan Yang lalu
  • F900R engines made in china

    MattyBoyMattyBoyBulan Yang lalu
  • DuKawi LoL

    Michael KulhMichael KulhBulan Yang lalu
  • Would prefer the kawi with a triple but it’s still better than the bmw .

    Nick ClarkNick ClarkBulan Yang lalu
  • Brand new Z900 riding vid from Schaaf: m.idworlds.info/from/yKp7hKmvgqSbqJY/video

    Ricardo JulietRicardo JulietBulan Yang lalu
  • Reliability alone is why I go with Kawasaki over BMW.

    M. JacksonM. JacksonBulan Yang lalu
  • bmw looks like MT07 but with 900cc engine

    Silver RamboSilver RamboBulan Yang lalu
  • #1 Kawasaki for sure

    Jacob Raphael Torres PatiñoJacob Raphael Torres PatiñoBulan Yang lalu
  • Austrian IDworlds nutter Schaaf RAVES about the confidence inspiring mountain road performance of both the 2020 and previous gen Z900. He has video reviews of each, and both are highly complimentary. The bikes punch way above their pricetags.

    Ricardo JulietRicardo JulietBulan Yang lalu
  • You can fight over Z900/ MT09 any day and I'll say it's fair but not over that Chinese bimmer.

    Dash ADVDash ADVBulan Yang lalu
  • orang batak ya om? hebat ini jdi host channel luar😅

    Negative DisplayNegative DisplayBulan Yang lalu
  • Yeah I'll stick with watching Motorcyclist reviews, and Revzilla. 👍

    Tyler NelsonTyler NelsonBulan Yang lalu
  • 125 hp not 115.

    ZmanZmanBulan Yang lalu
  • I'm only 5'5" sat on f900 and it felt uncomfortably tall, lot of effort to get it off the side stand. The z900 was a breeze and not too tall. F900r gas tank 3.4 gal is a deal breaker anyway. I think the new Honda cb650r should be included as it is a higher spec machine than the other 650's, hence the higher price. At 94hp and less weight I think it would be a fair comparison.

    Ted SandersTed SandersBulan Yang lalu
  • Guys you should use a good camara

    The CARBON HOODThe CARBON HOODBulan Yang lalu
  • This is not a review, you're outright justifying why people should buy the Loncin F900 over the Kawasaki Z900, which is crazy.

    Sangko SanSangko SanBulan Yang lalu
  • Great Couples Bike, R900 for the wife, girlfriend and the Z for the Men

    Dirk PackwoodDirk PackwoodBulan Yang lalu
  • The kawasaki maybe the best buy out there!

    P DarkP DarkBulan Yang lalu
  • That really surprises me, the Kawi is proven, the BMW ain't half bad, but my Street Triple makes more power stock, than both. I have seen the BMW in person and honestly to me, it really doesn't look like a "true" naked bike like the Kawi, or my Triumph. Looked like they took an ADV bike, lowered it a bit, and cut the ADV fairing.

    mirlin235mirlin2352 bulan yang lalu
  • If you mention socialism distancing again I’m going to puke.

    KingPoCKingPoC2 bulan yang lalu
  • Thumbs up for the Ducawi comment!

    199019902 bulan yang lalu
  • I will pick BMW anyday for its reliability, aggression and Pure riding feel.

    Sameer VermaSameer Verma2 bulan yang lalu
  • Gente coloca $$ na bolsa no trade jkkk so um imbecil cai nesse golpe da propaganda

    RENATO 66 SPRENATO 66 SP2 bulan yang lalu
  • Maybe they cant be compared..bc bmw has parallel twin while z900 has inline 4 cylinder.. Its serious threat to triumph street triple RS AND YAMAHA MT09

    Kishan SoniKishan Soni2 bulan yang lalu
    • Yep, very serious. Especially with the Loncin engine that is made in china.

      Torquey RiderTorquey Rider2 bulan yang lalu
  • As an european i would still choose the japanese bikes

    Dolan DukDolan Duk2 bulan yang lalu
  • I wonder why no mention of the warranty and overall cost of ownership.

    KaizenKaizen2 bulan yang lalu
  • Where is this video filmed? Really nice roads!

    NickNick2 bulan yang lalu
    • Southern California, maybe Santa Monica mountains or Angeles Crest area I'm guessing.

      Ted SandersTed SandersBulan Yang lalu
  • Idk why people only care about power. If you're not taking it to the track you might prefer the bike with less power depending on how it rolls on.

    Michael SelzlerMichael Selzler2 bulan yang lalu
  • The Z900 may just be my next bike! Thanks for the video, great work guys!

    Joe CollinsJoe Collins2 bulan yang lalu
  • Kawasaki all day. Be careful with those tar snakes on those roads, I hate those things, makes the bike shake and shimmy thru the turns.

    Richard SheridanRichard Sheridan2 bulan yang lalu
  • Which one has an engine built in germany? Neither.

    raymond wandellraymond wandell2 bulan yang lalu
    • Lol japanese engineering is way better.

      ViezeTurkViezeTurk2 bulan yang lalu
  • Troy siahaan keturunan batak indonesia???

    Glpromozar fauziGlpromozar fauzi2 bulan yang lalu
  • The dude is BITTER! hahaha KAWI BABY, Cant't Beat Em'!

    Jordan WeltyJordan Welty2 bulan yang lalu
    • Hacks lung up in S1000rr. And don't even with the H2R, we are talking about production bikes.

      Jadon BanksJadon BanksBulan Yang lalu
  • I got this kawasaki, and riding every day to work, simply amazing, just battery was dead, as I was on holiday 2 weeks :D

    Darius KaciugaDarius Kaciuga2 bulan yang lalu
  • The BMW aint pretty but Z900s are bloody ugly!

    BaconterrainBaconterrain2 bulan yang lalu
  • Both sound a bit bored with the whole thing to me.

    Martin CornishMartin Cornish2 bulan yang lalu
  • If it was a Hyosung making the same power, the guys wouldn't give the BMW such favor in contrast with the Z. Honestly the BMW should be compared to the Duke 890R more than the Z. Even there, the KTM makes a lot more power.

    Lifted_AboveLifted_Above2 bulan yang lalu
  • I got the 2020 z900 in black with Akrapovic no baffle plus carbon fibre front and rear hungers and heel guards and carbon exhaust shield, Michelin Road5 tyres. I know I'm biased but I fukin love this bike. When you get off it, or about to get on it...you can't help looking at it. If you want a bike that you can park next to anything....this is it. I commute everyday rain or shine on it/her...and I can't wait to go to work. Says a lot.

    Why You No Listen!Why You No Listen!2 bulan yang lalu
  • I have the 2020 z900 so yeah it’s a dope bike

    anthony maciasanthony macias2 bulan yang lalu
  • The review was a bit like my brother and I. He likes his Aprilia Shiver 900 and I like my Z900. Both great bikes but it is up to the individual to choose the one that suits them.

    arnohag1arnohag12 bulan yang lalu
  • If the BMW 900 is twice as reliable as their 800 was, you'll make it just past the warranty when your pistons seize.

    RidingsRidesRidingsRides2 bulan yang lalu
  • Why didn't u use the mt09 as well

    submissions72submissions722 bulan yang lalu
  • Good to see and hear more of Burns. Straight shooter.

    Edward WeiszbeckEdward Weiszbeck2 bulan yang lalu
  • Hey guys! Nice work on this, I enjoyed it. John, I am with you, Sir - I will take the Ducawi all day every day and twice on Sundays! To me it's hands down the better bike. The BMW just doesn't do anything for me - and to be honest, I am really not sure about that Chinese-made engine. I have never really looked to see what kind of aftermarket exists for the Z, but it will be a fun search. Heading over to read the article now. Thanks again, fellas! Keep 'em coming.

    Dennis MDennis M2 bulan yang lalu
  • What about brutale 800rr

    DilshadDilshad2 bulan yang lalu
  • Those budget BMWs are garbage and not very reliable , get a Japanese bike if you prefer riding than visiting your dealer or spannering .

    Simon FlySimon Fly2 bulan yang lalu
  • If Burns is in it, I'm there 🤗 He makes me smile. I'd probably go with the Kawi......but it would have to be a color scheme that didnt make me hurl 🤮

    Someone Needs a SnickersSomeone Needs a Snickers2 bulan yang lalu
  • Hate the sound the BMW makes!

    no oneno one2 bulan yang lalu
  • Damn, if the kawi is putting down 115 hp at the rear wheel, it should be the undisputed hp king of the middleweight bikes. But at 947 cc its damn near a litre bike. It's about 100 cc more than yamaha's rounded up 900 class.

    brussell639brussell6392 bulan yang lalu
  • 40% failure rate on BMWs, Consumer Reports 2015, doubt much has changed. My 09' BMW R12R has had one engineering failure after another, flattened rear bearing, cracked plastic throttle cams, FI pump spewing gas all over the place, on it third gas gauge now. Did have a K1200 LT , went 1000s of miles, no break downs but was waiting for rear wheel bearing failure, and hideous maint costs due to the tupperware.

    B SeidemB Seidem2 bulan yang lalu
  • The BMW lost me at 3.4 gallons. That’s a great size on something 300cc or less.

    P MP M3 bulan yang lalu
    • The last-gen SV650S used a 4.5 gallon tank for about a decade, giving it a useful range of about 180 miles BEFORE the fuel light, and another 45 miles to find a fuel station.

      Lifted_AboveLifted_Above2 bulan yang lalu
  • Looks like you guys don't get the LED indicators in the US like we get them over here in Europe. They are the same as my previous generation Z900 (2017). I wouldn't even swap my 2017 Kawa Z900 for the BMW. Sorry

    Pietro BemboPietro Bembo3 bulan yang lalu
  • Where is that place?! I'd love to take a ride there

    David ArayaDavid Araya3 bulan yang lalu
    • I’m assuming California.

      P MP M3 bulan yang lalu
  • I came for a review of the Z900 and left with a even more of a thirst for the Z900

    mandizzle0517mandizzle05173 bulan yang lalu
  • Chinese engine in the BMW makes it a non starter for me

    Phil AthertonPhil Atherton3 bulan yang lalu
    • @Phil Atherton I agree, but think many people are concerned with the reliability of a bike that's not made in the country of origin whether it be China, Thailand, or India.

      Ted SandersTed SandersBulan Yang lalu
    • @Ted Sanders It's not about the reliability. Some things I have to buy from China, either whole or with parts, but if I can avoid it I will when there are other options

      Phil AthertonPhil AthertonBulan Yang lalu
    • Do you think BMW would risk their reputation and sell a crappy engine? I had a 2009 f800gs twin, and I heard the same shit, not a real BMW, yadda,yadda,yadda. Not a bit of trouble from the engine, smooth running, no oil consumption. 5 years and 25,000 miles of my ownership. Where is your iPhone made?

      Ted SandersTed SandersBulan Yang lalu
    • Yeah, there might be a Chinese spy hidden inside the engine ;)

      Pietro BemboPietro Bembo3 bulan yang lalu
  • John's voice reminds me of Trump 🤔

    I JerI Jer3 bulan yang lalu
    • Which one ?

      Pietro BemboPietro Bembo3 bulan yang lalu
  • I do love F900r 270 P2 sound, but no doubt the Z900 is the better bike.

    viperqviperq3 bulan yang lalu
  • Sick ass bike🔥

    Pinoy masabawPinoy masabaw3 bulan yang lalu
  • Its actually pretty amazing that in 2020 one can buy a brand new 900cc BMW for $9,000.

    BrokenFiddlesBrokenFiddles3 bulan yang lalu
  • Cool vid show some love and subscribe to me. Keep up the sick vids

    MAD MIKEMAD MIKE3 bulan yang lalu
  • looks like the exact spot where that jesus rider wrecked.

    GivadangerGivadanger3 bulan yang lalu
  • Z900 exhaust doesn't sound nearly as good as the BMW. And the bigger cylinders in the BMW means punchier torque which I want in a naked!

    Andrew KimAndrew Kim3 bulan yang lalu
    • Put a GPR or SC Project end can on it and you will quickly change your mind. Looks better as well and it doesn't cost the earth.

      Pietro BemboPietro Bembo3 bulan yang lalu
  • Oh marga siahaan toh Ok klu gtu lae👍👍

    Binggo BravoBinggo Bravo3 bulan yang lalu
  • Mr. Troy, are you Indonesian??

    darrelsanjaya14darrelsanjaya143 bulan yang lalu
  • I think these reviewers need to give more attention to Kawasaki -- most of their new bikes now come with LED headlights and TFT displays with great HP and reliability at reasonable prices.

    DJ MotoVlogsDJ MotoVlogs3 bulan yang lalu
  • Z900 everytime over F900R... Troy's review is not as good and interesting as before. It's becoming a bit complacent, to be honest.

    Hezri MustaphaHezri Mustapha3 bulan yang lalu
  • These reviews have come a long way and that’s not a bad thing. I appreciate you guys honing your skills review after review. Thanks for the content!

    MrJay06MrJay063 bulan yang lalu
  • Both are great bikes. would go with BMW for its versatility, Brembo brakes, TFT electronic suite including cruise. It can be a light touring bike with the BMW luggage added. Great all rounder. Typical Kawi ugly.

    D GomesD Gomes3 bulan yang lalu
    • Looks = taste. Quality + reliability = fact

      Pietro BemboPietro Bembo3 bulan yang lalu
  • He said the Kawasaki is going to get better gas mileage is he out of his mind ? 2 extra cylinders to feed and more capacity.

    Chris HartChris Hart3 bulan yang lalu
    • Yeah, that surprised me too. From my experience, I would predict 35 to 40 mpg from the z900 and close to 50ish for bmw.

      Ted SandersTed SandersBulan Yang lalu
  • F900xr making 85hp at the wheel that bike is broken. That 20hp lost in the drive train. Africa twin only looses 6hp. Tiger 800 is down to 81hp at the wheel. Probably why the tiger doesn't have the expected go when compared to versey's v-strome f700gs nc750 etc...

    Chris HartChris Hart3 bulan yang lalu
  • Both nice but I luv my 2020 Z900.

    xlasvegan7xxlasvegan7x3 bulan yang lalu
  • Zzzzzzzng vs grrrrrrrrr😂

    Carlo AbdonCarlo Abdon3 bulan yang lalu
  • I take kawasaki it is reliable it has less breakdowns

    владислав гавриленковладислав гавриленко3 bulan yang lalu
  • Hry Troy, kapan kamu pulang kampung? 😉

    Papa GojekPapa Gojek3 bulan yang lalu